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Dan Driscoll Shawn Ryan Show
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And so I think that there is a real possibility that some of the things China is
pretty effective with today when we hit moments of warfare and conflict, we are
able to degrade those capabilities quickly and they will have had an over
reliance on them in conflict combat where I think their safe self driving
capabilities may be amazing in Beijing and they may be effective on the
battlefield, but they also might not be.

And I don’t know that they have invested and continue to invest and train these
exquisite human beings like we have in our soldiers that at that moment where it
kind of all degrades back to just humans on the ground with commander’s intent
who’s going to win? I am incredibly optimistic that our soldiers win that fight
every single time.

【 在 gaofei 的大作中提到: 】
: 钢铁意志那个事，好像一直没见英语链接
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